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		<title>There&#8217;s No Business Like People Business</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 12:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Take a look at this (mostly complete) list of industries, courtesy of Monster.com: Accounting Advertising Aerospace and Defense Agriculture/Forestry Architectural and Design Automotive and Parts Manufacturing Automotive Sales Banking Biotechnology/Pharmaceuticals Broadcasting, Music and Film Business Services Computer Hardware Computer Software Computer/IT Services Construction Education Energy and Utilities Entertainment Venues Financial Services Food and Beverage Production [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at this (mostly complete) list of industries, courtesy of Monster.com:</p>
<ul>
<li>Accounting</li>
<li>Advertising</li>
<li>Aerospace and Defense</li>
<li>Agriculture/Forestry</li>
<li>Architectural and Design</li>
<li>Automotive and Parts Manufacturing</li>
<li>Automotive Sales</li>
<li>Banking</li>
<li>Biotechnology/Pharmaceuticals</li>
<li>Broadcasting, Music and Film</li>
<li>Business Services</li>
<li>Computer Hardware</li>
<li>Computer Software</li>
<li>Computer/IT Services</li>
<li>Construction</li>
<li>Education</li>
<li>Energy and Utilities</li>
<li>Entertainment Venues</li>
<li>Financial Services</li>
<li>Food and Beverage Production</li>
<li>Government and Military</li>
<li>Healthcare Services</li>
<li>Hotels and Lodging</li>
<li>Insurance</li>
<li>Internet Services</li>
<li>Law Enforcement</li>
<li>Legal Services</li>
<li>Metals and Minerals</li>
<li>Nonprofit Charitable Org</li>
<li>Performing and Fine Arts</li>
<li>Personal and Household Services</li>
<li>Printing and Publishing</li>
<li>Real Estate/Property Management</li>
<li>Rental Services</li>
<li>Restaurant/Food Services</li>
<li>Retail</li>
<li>Security and Surveillance</li>
<li>Sports and Physical Recreation</li>
<li>Staffing/Employment Agencies</li>
<li>Telecommunications Services</li>
<li>Transport and Storage</li>
<li>Travel</li>
<li>Waste Management</li>
<li>Trade/Import-Export</li>
</ul>
<p>Do you see any industry in that list that would not require interaction with people?  And since this list encompasses pretty much all the jobs that are out there, can you, therefore, think of any job that would not involve interaction with people?  Dealing with their moods and idiosyncrasies, understanding them, relating to them and spending time with them?  There are probably a few non-people jobs out there, but the percentage is incredibly low.</p>
<p>Your job/career is one of the places where you&#8217;ll see <a href="http://www.olderbrothercomplex.com/2008/10/29/the-biggies/">Biggie #3</a> surface really fast.  It&#8217;s all about other people and how you interact with, deal with, and treat them.   An incomplete list or reasons:</p>
<ol>
<li>It&#8217;s a widely accepted fact that likable people, i.e. people who are easy to relate to, do better in their jobs; <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Likeability-Factor-L-Factor-Achieve-Dreams/dp/1400080495" target="_blank">books</a> have been written about increasing your likeability</li>
<li>In Trent&#8217;s excellent article about getting ahead at work, <a href="http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2009/03/19/14-tactics-for-getting-ahead-at-work-no-matter-what-your-job-is/" target="_blank">10 out of 14 tactics</a> have to do with relating to others</li>
<li>If you&#8217;re difficult to deal with, the only way you&#8217;re staying around is if you are skilled in your craft or, if you&#8217;re well connected (once again, relationships!  <img src='http://www.olderbrothercomplex.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ).  But people will dislike you, and will simply put up with you.  If you have worked for any length of time, you probably know a person like that.</li>
<li>It&#8217;s hard to achieve anything but the bare minimum if you don&#8217;t have the trust or support of your boss or coworkers</li>
<li>Understanding the people you&#8217;re interacting with helps you &#8220;speak their language&#8221; &#8211; multiple tests like the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DISC_assessment" target="_blank">DiSC Profile</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator" target="_blank">Myers-Briggs Type Indicator</a> are used by companies to help their employees understand how to better interact with one another</li>
<li>People have feelings, moods, and ups and downs; the better you can read these, the better off you&#8217;ll be</li>
</ol>
<p>#6 requires a bit of an elaboration:</p>
<p>So much talking is done about the &#8220;real world&#8221; and &#8220;being professional,&#8221; while we&#8217;re in school or just starting out, that we get caught in the trap of formulaic approach to people at work: show up at your cubicle, submit your report to the boss, answer a co-worker&#8217;s email, host a meeting, go home.  Co-workers and bosses are just other chess pieces, moving around the chessboard.  We tend to forget that every single person around us carries with them happiness or sadness or excitement or gloominess, and all of the baggage (good and bad) from the non-work hours gets hauled into the office every day.  Likewise, there are bad and good days, for a multitude of reasons.  Sometimes, the mood of a person or a whole group is relaxed, and other times, you get a sense that just one more straw will break the proverbial camel&#8217;s back.</p>
<p>As such, there are times to joke, and there are times to remain somber and business-like.  There are times to pull people aside and check in with them, and there are times to just get out of their way.  There are times when playing with whatever toy you got at <a href="http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/" target="_blank">Thinkgeek.com</a> will be considered hilarious, and there are times when it will get you an appointment with HR.  No matter how professional people try to be, they are still people.  If you learn to be attuned to how they&#8217;re feeling or to read their mood, you will be much better equipped to deal with them.</p>
<p>In summary, to have a meaningful job, to create a great reputation, and to have achievements that are above basic expectations, you need to be able to relate to and deal with others well.  Reading Dale Carnegie&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friends-Influence-People/dp/0671027034/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1252496563&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank">How to Win Friends and Influence People</a> is a great first step.  To paraphrase a song once again, &#8220;there&#8217;s no people like &#8216;people&#8217; people.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>4th anniversary</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 18:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today, I have been married to my wife for 4 years.  It hasn&#8217;t been pure bliss, and there have been downright ugly moments.  We&#8217;ve been growing together, and growth hurts, especially when you get pruned. We&#8217;ve had to put up with each other and stare red-faced at our own shortcomings.  There have been fights and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today, I have been married to my wife for 4 years.  It hasn&#8217;t been pure bliss, and there have been downright ugly moments.  We&#8217;ve been growing together, and growth hurts, especially when you get pruned. We&#8217;ve had to put up with each other and stare red-faced at our own shortcomings.  There have been fights and tears and tense silences.  So, why would I be happy about it and celebrate it?  Three reasons:</p>
<p>A. Because married life isn&#8217;t supposed to be easy: when Tom Hanks (as Jimmy Dugan) said &#8220;It&#8217;s supposed to be hard. If it wasn&#8217;t hard, everyone would do it. The hard&#8230; is what makes it great.&#8221;, he must have been recalling Ecclesiastes&#8217; writings.  Trying to live a trouble-free life is futile; the real joy comes not from absence of pain, but from knowledge that you&#8217;re facing whatever is coming your way as a team.</p>
<p>B. Because pain is weakness leaving the body, as the Marines say.  Struggles in a relationship make is stronger, if you&#8217;re committed to it.  Every misunderstanding or miscommunication is an opportunity to choose love instead of anger, self-denial instead of selfishness, forgiveness instead of bitterness.  Oftentimes, the only thing you have to go on is a promise you made to the other person.  Almost always, you can only see how much you have grown and improved as a person in the rear-view mirror.</p>
<p>C. Last, but most important &#8211; because of who my wife is: a wonderful woman whose admirable traits and characteristics I don&#8217;t mention nearly often enough.  A warm, charming, bubbly girl.  A dedicated friend.  A concerned, caring sister.  An intellect and a scholar.  A delicate, yet strong woman.  A daughter of God.  A loving person who will one day be an amazing mother.  Someone who has transformed me, but says that I&#8217;m still a &#8216;rough draft&#8217; and that she needs a few more decades to complete the project.  She praises me, helps me, pushes me, encourages me, respects me, makes me laugh, and kicks my butt in any and all board games.  As we do this complicated 12-round cage-match tango routine through the sometime stormy, sometime calm seas of life, we&#8217;re becoming closer friends, confidants and soul-mates.  I look forward to spending every day of the rest of my life with you, honey.  I love you.</p>
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		<title>Heightened expectations</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>obc</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If a picture is worth a thousand words, then would two contrasting pictures be worth two thousand words, because there&#8217;s two of them, or zero words, because they are opposites?  Maybe it&#8217;s still a thousand words, seeing as most people probably want their idioms free and clear of any math. Ran across an interesting post [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a picture is worth a thousand words, then would two contrasting pictures be worth two thousand words, because there&#8217;s two of them, or zero words, because they are opposites?  Maybe it&#8217;s still a thousand words, seeing as most people probably want their idioms free and clear of any math.</p>
<p>Ran across an interesting post on the <a title="Surf Report" href="http://www.thewvsr.com/adsvsreality.htm">Surf Report</a>: a compare and contrast of fast food advertisements and how the actual food looks like.  While an interesting peek into the world of advertising, capitalism, or even the American culture in general, it made me think of some other areas of life where advertising/expectations are quite different that the real thing.</p>
<ul>
<li>Politics: politicians during campaign season vs. politicians in office</li>
<li>Marriage/relationships: courtship/engagement vs. actual married life</li>
</ul>
<p>What are some others?  Leave comments.</p>
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		<title>When I Grow Up, I Want to Be Like You</title>
		<link>http://www.olderbrothercomplex.com/2009/03/18/when-i-grow-up-i-want-to-be-like-you/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>obc</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some time ago, I attended a function, and sat at the same table as a married couple that I have known for quite some time &#8211; going on 15 years.  I haven&#8217;t seen or talked to them as much in the last 10 years, because I live on the other side of the state, but [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some time ago, I attended a function, and sat at the same table as a married couple that I have known for quite some time &#8211; going on 15 years.  I haven&#8217;t seen or talked to them as much in the last 10 years, because I live on the other side of the state, but still get birthday cards from them.  I have a very high opinion of them because they have devoted themselves to working with kids for several decades.  They are about my parents&#8217; age, and I&#8217;ll refer to them as Mr. C and Mrs. C.</p>
<p>All right, back to that dinner.  We were at an 8-person table,  and this couple ended up being seated separately.  Mrs. C sat next to another woman, while Mr. C sat across the table, next to a different couple.  The function went on for quite some time, so there was plenty of time to observe everyone&#8217;s interactions.</p>
<p>The woman sitting next to Mrs. C took issue with the outfits of the guests, and would lean over to her every once in a while, and say something to that effect.  I couldn&#8217;t hear everything clearly, but the gist of her comments was that the outfits, especially the dresses, were not modest at all.  She quietly complained that modern fashion leave very little to the imagination, and that young people these days don&#8217;t seem to care modesty and propriety as much as they should.  What I remember better than the exchanges is the look on Mrs. C&#8217;s face.  With a somber expression, she leaned towards the woman, trying to hear over the noise of the crowd in the hall, and nodded slightly as she listened.</p>
<p>On the other side of the table, Mr. C was yucking it up with his neighbor, who was the closest thing to a cowboy that you can find in the Northeast.  I got the impression that Mr. C, purposely or not, was doing a very good job of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirroring_(psychology)">mirroring </a> this gentleman.  While I missed most of their conversation, it was ongoing throughout the evening, and it seemed that the pseudo-cowboy was controlling it.  What I remember from that is the heart-felt chuckling, the agreements on how good the steak was, and the overall friendly nature of Mr. C.  It was easy to think that these two guys were buddies who were seated at the same table.</p>
<p>The function ended, the woman and the pseudo-cowboy went home, and so did Mr. and Mrs. C.  Just another dinner in another function hall.  And yet, I keep going back to that night in my mind.  I&#8217;m guessing that when the woman left, she felt her opinion was heard, and she had talked to someone who understood where she was coming from.  And I bet the cowboy gentleman thought he had a nice time chatting about food and sports and current events with a guy sitting next to him.</p>
<p>Mr. and Mrs. C&#8217;s stock went up with me that night, because they made the pleasant experiences possible for these two people.  I&#8217;m sure Mrs. C hears from distraught parents about the choices that the younger generations are making.  I&#8217;m sure she could have done without another helping of that, throughout dinner.  And I&#8217;m sure that Mr. C, a well-educated man, would have much rather enjoyed an intellectual conversation about any number of topics, instead of shallow chit-chat.  They, being guests of honor, could have made themselves busy elsewhere in the hall.  They could have switched the topics of their respective conversations, and started talking about what was interesting to them.</p>
<p>But they did not.  They selflessly yielded to other people, putting the interests of other first.  An act of humility like that says a lot about a person&#8217;s character.  Mr. and Mrs. C, when I grow up, I want to be like you.</p>
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		<title>Is she the one?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 04:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A young gentleman asked (through a public Christian forum): &#8220;how do I know this girl I really like is the one?&#8221;  To help him answer that question, I came up with a 5-question &#8216;quiz,&#8217; based on marriage literature (books by Drs. Les and Leslie Parrott, and other authors), various online resources (Family Life, Crosswalk.com Marriage, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A young gentleman asked (through a public Christian forum): &#8220;how do I know this girl I really like is the one?&#8221;  To help him answer that question, I came up with a 5-question &#8216;quiz,&#8217; based on marriage literature (books by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Parrott" target="_blank">Drs. Les and Leslie Parrott</a>, and other authors), various online resources (<a href="http://www.familylife.com/" target="_blank">Family Life</a>, <a href="http://www.crosswalk.com/marriage/" target="_blank">Crosswalk.com Marriage</a>, etc.) and other sources of information.</p>
<p>This targets guys, but could be useful to girls, as well.  So, if you&#8217;re wondering if you&#8217;re ready to do this thing called marriage, answer the following questions:</p>
<ol>
<li>are you guys old enough to be married now or within the next couple of years? will you be able to stand on your own two feet, and support yourselves as a family?if yes, <strong>proceed</strong>, if no, <strong>stop</strong>. it doesn&#8217;t matter if she&#8217;s the one &#8211; there&#8217;s nothing you can do about it for now.</li>
<li>are you a God-fearing man, living for His glory? do you know what you&#8217;re doing in life and where you&#8217;re going?if yes, <strong>proceed</strong>; if no (to either of the questions), <strong>stop</strong>. you first need to figure out yourself, and how to live a purposeful, God-glorifying life. if you don&#8217;t have an identity of your own, if you don&#8217;t have self-awareness, and you jump into a serious relationship, you will ruin the girl&#8217;s life.  and no young woman deserves somebody who&#8217;s going to be dead weight.</li>
<li>are you ready to give up your interests and your comforts? change your habits, how you spend your free time, and how you spend your money? are you ready to sacrificially love her, by yielding to her needs and wants?if yes, <strong>proceed</strong>; if no, <strong>stop</strong>. you are not ready for a serious relationship until the need for companionship (which God put into your heart) becomes greater than the need to be in full control of you time, money, and all decision-making.</li>
<li>is she a Godly young woman? does she love and serve God, and is God&#8217;s regenerative work evident in her life?if yes, <strong>proceed</strong>; if no, <strong>stop</strong>.  it&#8217;s not going to work, if the two of you aren&#8217;t living for the same overarching purpose.</li>
<li>does she make you a better person? do her actions/words or just here mere existence call you to be more holy, more honorable, more dedicated as a worker, more responsible as a future leader of a family, more devoted as a friend, more of a thinker/ponderer?if yes, <strong>proceed</strong>; if no, <strong>stop</strong>. if she doesn&#8217;t make you a better person, you&#8217;re looking at marrying down. within the first 3 years of marriage, the infatuation will fade, the rosy glasses will melt off, and you&#8217;ll realize that you have to spend the rest of your life with somebody dragging you down, instead of spurring you on.</li>
</ol>
<p>so, let&#8217;s recap: if you&#8217;ve gotten all the way down here, you&#8217;re old enough and mature enough to support and lead a family; you&#8217;re not a dead weight, and there&#8217;s a good chance you will NOT be a man who leads a life of quiet desperation, while his wife tries to do something, anything, to get him to show some interest in being a leader of the family.  it also looks like you found a wonderful girl who can become a wonderful wife.  final question:</p>
<p align="center"><strong>are you willing to be wrong for the rest of your life?</strong></p>
<p>if yes, things are looking very good, indeed. if no, forget about ever getting married.</p>
<p>ok, so maybe that wasn&#8217;t a fair question. i&#8217;m sure that throughout mankind&#8217;s history, out of hundreds of millions of marriages and out of billions and billions of arguments, there was at least 1 time where a husband was right. there has to be, right? right??</p>
<p>concluding remarks: notice, no question about whether she and you are exactly alike, or, on the flip side, exactly opposite. there are plenty of happily-married people who are complete opposites and plenty of happily-married couples who might as well be twins. notice, no questions about your and her families. they are secondary to the life that you will build together. some in-laws are harder to get along with, but, hopefully, you&#8217;re not marrying her for the in-laws. notice, no questions about how many children she wants to have, who wants to live in the city and who wants to live in the country, and definitely no questions about the color of the wedding invitations.  all of that stuff is secondary. if you are ready for married life, if she is ready for married life, if the two of you will make each other better and can become best friends and soul mates, and if both of you know that this life is not all there is, but just the beginning, then you&#8217;ve got a good foundation to start on.</p>
<p>just remember that marriage (just like love) is not a state of being, it is action &#8211; a deliberate, difficult, day-in-day-out working out of sacrificial love towards your spouse.</p>
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